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Integrate takasago pinch valve with pioreactor #145

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sgbaird opened this issue Jan 10, 2025 · 15 comments · May be fixed by #154
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Integrate takasago pinch valve with pioreactor #145

sgbaird opened this issue Jan 10, 2025 · 15 comments · May be fixed by #154
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sgbaird commented Jan 10, 2025

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https://docs.pioreactor.com/user-guide/pinch-valves

@linx5o it would be nice to see this (at least to give it a quick try). Thoughts?

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linx5o commented Jan 11, 2025

Of course. I will take a look.

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linx5o commented Jan 13, 2025

After looking at this approach I don't really see a use case where this is useful.

If we connect it up to the Pioreactor we would need to go through software to activate it, as an interrupt of some sort. However, we would still have no knowledge of liquid levels in the vial. Also since we are interrupting the current running we could just stop the pumps maybe?

I think the main issue right now is we don't have knowledge of the liquid level.

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sgbaird commented Jan 13, 2025

It's more as a proof of concept for being able to control gas flow (e.g., if someone is flowing nitrogen into a system). E.g., someone comes into the lab and sees the Pioreactor - we describe and show how it can do heating, stirring, optical measurements, liquid transfer, etc. and also control the flow of gas.

Sorry for the lack of clarity - this is unrelated to the liquid level issue.

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linx5o commented Jan 13, 2025

Understood.

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sgbaird commented Jan 14, 2025

Might be good to know where we can purchase these types connectors to make a custom one with our valves (which I think simply have two wires). We'll also need to double check the orientation (+ vs -) and whether it's normally closed or normally open. I have the specs for what we bought so lmk if I need to dig it up.

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Also, when you make the pioreactor forum post, please include a link to it in this issue

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linx5o commented Jan 14, 2025

Forum post for connector type

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linx5o commented Jan 17, 2025

The PS-1615NC pinch valve appears to operate regardless of polarity.

For the Pioreactor after installing the relay plugin set the start_on for the relay in the configurations to 0. May require restart.
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Also change the PWM mapping.

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sgbaird commented Jan 17, 2025

Nice! At some point a video would be great. Thanks for documenting.

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linx5o commented Jan 17, 2025

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Current setup, two individual connectors plugged into the PWM port. No stand or support for the pinch valve. Need thinner tubing to test. I believe 1.6 inner diameter 3.2 outer diameter tubing.

Functionality has been added to huggingface.

Possible concern of continuous use of pinch valve leading to high temperatures. (60+ degrees Celsius)

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sgbaird commented Jan 17, 2025

Nice! Do you know if the pinch valve is on/off only or if the position can be controlled partially? I think it mentioned PWM as a way to avoid overheating, and good point about the temperature being a concern.

@Neil-YL could you print one of https://www.printables.com/model/356918-dovetail-pinch-valve-holder in black please?

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linx5o commented Jan 17, 2025

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The Pioreactor only has a switch, hardware might support it though.

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sgbaird commented Jan 17, 2025

Ah, got it! Do you mind asking on the forum (same thread should be fine)? They might know. Thanks for digging into this issue. Feel free to close when you're ready.

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Neil-YL commented Jan 17, 2025

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Only need one right?
Do I need to test the fitting?

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sgbaird commented Jan 17, 2025

Just one, correct. If you could just leave it somewhere that @linx5o can get to that would be great. Thanks!

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Neil-YL commented Jan 17, 2025

@linx5o you can find it next the pinch valve on the same desk

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