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Grindable ammo cartridges #33169

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You can now grind ammo cartridges in the all-in-one grinder. This includes special ammo (for example, incendiary ammunition has CLF3 in it.)
The bullets do not contain lead since it is currently too powerful of a reagent to be used for such a common item.

Additionally, with the power of MULTI-INHERITANCE™, this reduces on yaml copypaste for special ammo bullet colors.

Also makes the uranium shotgun shell's name consistent.

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More grindables are good for improvised chem

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  • add: You can now grind bullets to get lead (among other materials.)

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Licoxide ops real

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Alternative idea:
Grinding bullets fucking explodes the grinder

Using a screwdriver to pry open a shotgun shell allows you to separate it into its components (primer, gunpowder, wad, and shot, with the wad being used to net plastic and the shot being used to net lead)

Using a screwdriver to pry open a bullet will separate it into the actual bullet, gunpowder, shell, and primer.

If you try to grind the primer and gunpowder, they explode. You can maybe use the gunpowder to make a more powerful pipe bomb.

This is all out of scope on this PR but when I put a shotgun shell into a blender... I expect to get a budget claymore out of it then just straight lead (and fiber???? thats not how that works).

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Flareguy commented Nov 5, 2024

After some internal discussion, the bullets now use iron instead of lead. I feel like lead in its current state is simply too powerful to be used for such a common item right now. You can deal immense damage with small unit amounts, and lixocide in of itself is pretty ridiculous as well.

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thebadman4662 commented Nov 5, 2024

Lead still only for nukies. :despair:

You can deal immense damage with small unit amounts

Still, would be nice if charcoal got used more often by the less competent crew and there actually was time to use it. Right now pill takes 20s to metabolize, thats 20 ticks of damage of poison + all the time they took getting to medbay/doctor with char. In other words by the time charcoal can work, all poison is metabolized and patient is potentially even in softpermadeath to poison cause someone used epipen.

Lead is only poison that can reasonably get purged witch charcoal if doctors do not keep bottles of it to inject/know how stasis works. It gives people plenty of time to treat it and notice something is going wrong.

Licoxide and lead would be awesome for revolutions, revs need more non-meta tools to swing odds in their favor. Cargo rush wars are just so snoozefest most of the time as it leads to steamroll of one of other side. 😭

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Changelog still says that you get lead from bullets

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Licoxide and lead would be awesome for revolutions, revs need more non-meta tools to swing odds in their favor. Cargo rush wars are just so snoozefest most of the time as it leads to steamroll of one of other side. 😭

Amatoxin bow my beloved.

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thebadman4662 commented Nov 5, 2024

Licoxide and lead would be awesome for revolutions, revs need more non-meta tools to swing odds in their favor. Cargo rush wars are just so snoozefest most of the time as it leads to steamroll of one of other side. 😭

Amatoxin bow my beloved.

Even after rework still too fast + arrows have "barely any"... Unless you are simply praising the damage of the poison in itself.

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After some internal discussion, the bullets now use iron instead of lead. I feel like lead in its current state is simply too powerful to be used for such a common item right now. You can deal immense damage with small unit amounts, and lixocide in of itself is pretty ridiculous as well.

Copper would make more sense and would add a source that isnt cargo

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